Creo que os odio un poco a todos... When my boy walks down the street, Grand Canyon, Like a Chicken with its head cut off y Busby Berkeley Dream eran top 20.
1.2 i don´t belive in the sun 1.9 Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits 2.4 time enough for rocking when... 2. 12 Promises of Eternity 2.15 long forgotten..
1.9 Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits 1.15 The One You Really Love 1.21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing 2.4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old 3.12 Meaningless
Estoy pensando como sería mi top5 y 4 o incluso las 5 serían del primero
1.15 The One You Really Love 1.21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing 2.4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old 2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It 3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
Ayer estaba preparando el post con las eliminadas y cuando le di a enviar el foro había hecho catacroquer, así que ahí va.
Las eliminadas son:
Con 6 votos:
3.10 YEAH! OH, YEAH!
"Following on the heels Wi' Nae Wee Bairn Ye'll Me Beget, this is the second of the two murder ballads on 69 Love Songs — though both are eccentric in relation to the corps of 'traditional' murder ballads.
Using the classification schema for murder ballads provided by Eric Zorn the entry for Yeah! Oh, Yeah! would be:
Location of murder: Domestic Method: Knife Name of Killer / Relation to victim: Unspecified, wife Motive: Perpetual whining, can't sing Method of body disposal: Unspecified Justice done? Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
LD Beghtol adds, "During this song at the Knitting Factory release show, Claudia Gonson was playing so hard that a bass string snapped on the piano, which could have decapitated Shirley Simms and me. But what a way to go…" "
Con 5 votos:
1.2 I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SUN
"The moon appears regularly in Stephin Merritt's songs: 14 instances were recorded before 69 Love Songs, and the same source identifies even more songs that mention eyes, which also appear in this song (The only stars there really are / were shining in your eyes).
The sun/moon/stars symbolism is associated with heavenly, spiritual love.
mym observes: See also the great "wings of night" speech in Romeo & Juliet, a play packed with references to Love, the moon, the sun and the stars:
Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night, Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die, Take him and cut him out in little stars, And he will make the face of heaven so fine That all the world will be in love with night And pay no worship to the garish sun.
another case where astronomy will have to be revised.
LD Beghtol writes:
Alan Sparhawk of Low thinks this is the best song on the album, and once jokingly said in an interview that Stephin should just quit writing since he's making it that much harder on the rest of us songwriters… "
1.9 LET'S PRETEND WE'RE BUNNY RABBITS
"LD Beghtol writes:
Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits is a tribute to Nayland Blake as much as to Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark. Also premiered at the art gallery rooftop concert in summer 1998 before recording really commenced. Nayland is famous for his bunny imagery, which Stephin Merritt was rather taken with at that time. I think it’s the saddest song Stephin has ever written, actually… all that death.
Allegedly, Blake's use of the character of a bunny rabbit in his artwork began as a way of discussing the stereotype of homosexual male promiscuity. See his oversized bunny costume and Heavenly Bunny Suit.
People have speculated about the origin of the line 'Let abbots, Babbitts and Cabots'. The most likely explanation is that it is a kind of reflexive in-joke about rhyming dictionaries — notwithstanding Stephin Merritt's claim in the 69 Love Songs booklet that "I've spent the whole time of 69 Love Songs without a rhyming dictionary". Elsewhere Stephin recommends the Clement Wood Rhyming Dictionary, but says he uses a range of dictionaries. The rhymes given for AB'it (the syllable coupling to which rabbit belongs) by Clement Wood begin: babbitt, Babbitt, cohabit, grab it etc. However Merriam-Webster's Rhyming Dictionary lists the rhymes for abit as: abbot, babitt, Babbitt and Cabot, which is too close to the lyric to be coincidence.
Though the rhyming dictionaries are not specific about the Babbitts to which they refer, Stephin Merritt probably favours the experimental composer and theorist Milton Babbitt.
On the other hand, there's an early George and Ira Gershwin song, "The Babbitt and the Bromide", which was originally sung on stage by Fred Astaire and his sister Adele, and later appeared in the film Ziegfeld Follies sung by Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly. In this song a Babbitt is a boring, workaday person (as is a bromide).
It should also be remembered that Merritt grew up and went to school in Boston, where the Cabots were the supreme family of Boston's social elite. "
2.4 TIME ENOUGH FOR ROCKING WHEN WE'RE OLD
"'There'll be time enough for rocking when we're old We can rock all day in rocking chairs of gold ...' 'There'll be time enough for sleeping when we're dead, my love There'll be time enough for sex and drugs in Heaven'
If A Pretty Girl is Like... is a riposte to Irving Berlin's A Pretty Girl is Like a Melody", then Time Enough For Rocking When We're Old might be the answer to Bon Jovi's I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. There's an obvious pun on 'rocking', traditionally associated with sex and drugs and marking you out as not old, but here proposed as something to be postponed until dotage — opposed to the infinitely more immediate urge to go dancing.
A spanish duo named Espanto covered this song in spanish.
"When all 69 Love Songs are performed live over two nights, Promises of Eternity song closes the first night. It is performed by Stephin alone on stage, singing to Chris Ewen's backing tracks, which provides the opportunity to camp up some of the lyrics ('What if the show couldn't go on / ... What if all the stage hands were let go or fired' etc).
'No Seven, no 8½, no Nine, and no "10"'
Seven (a.k.a. Se7en) refers the David Fincher film [link]. 8½ is the Federico Fellini film. Nine is the Maury Yeston musical performed on Broadway in 1982 and 2003. And "10" is the Blake Edwards film.
In the 69 Love Songs booklet, Stephin Merritt says that the arrangement is meant as a Tom Jones tribute, while Daniel Handler suggests Fellini's "campy, sentimental, nostalgic, ridiculous, sublime vision seems to fit right in with the vision of this album". "
A mí Crazy for You But Not That Crazy me encanta, pero sí, la verdad que lo de I Don't Believe in the Sun me ha extrañado, yo pensaba que llegaría muy, muy lejos.
Lo bueno es que estando fuera I Don't Believe in the Sun me resulta fácil votar, porque veo canciones claramente por debajo.
2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing 1 7 Come Back From San Francisco 2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It 1 11 I Think I Need A New Heart
En mi caso I don't believe in the sun me gustó más en las primeras escuchas luego se me fue desinchando, yo la he elegido sencillamente por ritmo, porque ambas letras me gustan, pero se me hace "menos pesada" la de Crazy for You But Not That Crazy.
No veáis cosas raras en la eliminación de I Don't Believe in the Sun. Yo voté para que se fuera porque simplemente hay veintitantas canciones (o así) en el disco que me gustan más. Ni creo que su letra sea la repera ni la melodía es el no va más. Es chula, sí, pero creo que hay cosas más chispeantes, con arreglos más ocurrentes y con mejores frases en el disco. Hace tiempo que alguna de mi top 3 se largó con viento fresco ("The Night You Can't Remember") y entiendo que haya muchos a los que la letra de esta no les llegue tanto como a mí, pero vamos....esas son ya historias personales y muy privadas de cada cual.
1.06 I Don't Want to Get Over You 1.15 The One You Really Love 2.07 No One Will Ever Love You 2.10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
1 7 Come Back From San Francisco 1 12 THE BOOK OF LOVE 2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 2.07 No One Will Ever Love You 2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
1 7 Come Back From San Francisco 1 11 I Think I Need A New Heart 1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing 2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
2.10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 1 7 Come Back From San Francisco 2. 12 Promises of Eternity 2.15 long forgotten.. 2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
Solo se han ido dos de las que he votado, qué "suerte"
1 15 The One You Really Love 1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing 2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy 2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It 3 12 Meaningless
Va a ser que le tengo manía a Meaningless y además soy el único
no se @dwaki, este es el primero en el que participo, el último que vi desde la barrera fue el B&S y fue (para mi) un pequeño desastre... a este me apunté para luego no lamentarme (mucho) pero falto a una ronda y es el nonsense y aunque ya se han quedado en la cuneta alguna de mis favoritas, que conste que me lo estoy pasando genial, he redescubierto como tres o cuatro canciones... así que para mi ya ha valido la pena... por no hablar de toda la info que esta colgando @elek en cada ronda...
Gracias @Indecisionmetodica, los survivor son todos un sufrimiento pero lo bueno es lo que tú dices, que redescubres cosas y al final el saldo es positivo.
Comentarios
En fin. Vamos:
Disco 1:
1 Absolutely Cuckoo
2 I Don't Believe in the Sun
7 Come Back From San Francisco
Disco 2
4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old
10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
y nada aqui van los mios
1.2 i don´t belive in the sun
1.9 Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits
2.4 time enough for rocking when...
2. 12 Promises of Eternity
2.15 long forgotten..
1.12 The Book of Love
1.21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
2.4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old
3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
1.2 i don´t belive in the sun
1.9 Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits
1.12 THE BOOK OF LOVE
2. 12 Promises of Eternity
3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
1.9 Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits
1.15 The One You Really Love
1.21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
2.4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old
3.12 Meaningless
Estoy pensando como sería mi top5 y 4 o incluso las 5 serían del primero
1.21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
2.4 Time Enough for Rocking When We're Old
2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
@Noir, @Joseramone, @indecisionmetodica, @bertous, @newcombe. @gatoflauta
2.7 No one will ever love you
2.12 Promises of Eternity
2.15 Long-Forgotten Fairytale
2.16 Kiss me like you mean it
3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
1.1 absolutely Cuckoo
1.2 I don't believe in the sun
2.12 Promises of Eternity
2.17 Papa was a rodeo
3.10 Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
Las eliminadas son:
Con 6 votos:
3.10 YEAH! OH, YEAH!
"Following on the heels Wi' Nae Wee Bairn Ye'll Me Beget, this is the second of the two murder ballads on 69 Love Songs — though both are eccentric in relation to the corps of 'traditional' murder ballads.
Using the classification schema for murder ballads provided by Eric Zorn the entry for Yeah! Oh, Yeah! would be:
Location of murder: Domestic
Method: Knife
Name of Killer / Relation to victim: Unspecified, wife
Motive: Perpetual whining, can't sing
Method of body disposal: Unspecified
Justice done? Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
LD Beghtol adds, "During this song at the Knitting Factory release show, Claudia Gonson was playing so hard that a bass string snapped on the piano, which could have decapitated Shirley Simms and me. But what a way to go…" "
Con 5 votos:
1.2 I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SUN
"The moon appears regularly in Stephin Merritt's songs: 14 instances were recorded before 69 Love Songs, and the same source identifies even more songs that mention eyes, which also appear in this song (The only stars there really are / were shining in your eyes).
The sun/moon/stars symbolism is associated with heavenly, spiritual love.
mym observes: See also the great "wings of night" speech in Romeo & Juliet, a play packed with references to Love, the moon, the sun and the stars:
Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night,
Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die,
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun.
another case where astronomy will have to be revised.
LD Beghtol writes:
Alan Sparhawk of Low thinks this is the best song on the album, and once jokingly said in an interview that Stephin should just quit writing since he's making it that much harder on the rest of us songwriters… "
1.9 LET'S PRETEND WE'RE BUNNY RABBITS
"LD Beghtol writes:
Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits is a tribute to Nayland Blake as much as to Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark. Also premiered at the art gallery rooftop concert in summer 1998 before recording really commenced. Nayland is famous for his bunny imagery, which Stephin Merritt was rather taken with at that time. I think it’s the saddest song Stephin has ever written, actually… all that death.
Allegedly, Blake's use of the character of a bunny rabbit in his artwork began as a way of discussing the stereotype of homosexual male promiscuity. See his oversized bunny costume and Heavenly Bunny Suit.
People have speculated about the origin of the line 'Let abbots, Babbitts and Cabots'. The most likely explanation is that it is a kind of reflexive in-joke about rhyming dictionaries — notwithstanding Stephin Merritt's claim in the 69 Love Songs booklet that "I've spent the whole time of 69 Love Songs without a rhyming dictionary". Elsewhere Stephin recommends the Clement Wood Rhyming Dictionary, but says he uses a range of dictionaries. The rhymes given for AB'it (the syllable coupling to which rabbit belongs) by Clement Wood begin: babbitt, Babbitt, cohabit, grab it etc. However Merriam-Webster's Rhyming Dictionary lists the rhymes for abit as: abbot, babitt, Babbitt and Cabot, which is too close to the lyric to be coincidence.
Though the rhyming dictionaries are not specific about the Babbitts to which they refer, Stephin Merritt probably favours the experimental composer and theorist Milton Babbitt.
On the other hand, there's an early George and Ira Gershwin song, "The Babbitt and the Bromide", which was originally sung on stage by Fred Astaire and his sister Adele, and later appeared in the film Ziegfeld Follies sung by Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly. In this song a Babbitt is a boring, workaday person (as is a bromide).
It should also be remembered that Merritt grew up and went to school in Boston, where the Cabots were the supreme family of Boston's social elite. "
2.4 TIME ENOUGH FOR ROCKING WHEN WE'RE OLD
"'There'll be time enough for rocking when we're old
We can rock all day in rocking chairs of gold ...'
'There'll be time enough for sleeping when we're dead, my love
There'll be time enough for sex and drugs in Heaven'
If A Pretty Girl is Like... is a riposte to Irving Berlin's A Pretty Girl is Like a Melody", then Time Enough For Rocking When We're Old might be the answer to Bon Jovi's I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. There's an obvious pun on 'rocking', traditionally associated with sex and drugs and marking you out as not old, but here proposed as something to be postponed until dotage — opposed to the infinitely more immediate urge to go dancing.
A spanish duo named Espanto covered this song in spanish.
(Y yo añado: http://www.goear.com/listen/9a38c79/tiempo-para-el-rock-espanto).
2.12 PROMISES OF ETERNITY
(No hay dibujo
"When all 69 Love Songs are performed live over two nights, Promises of Eternity song closes the first night. It is performed by Stephin alone on stage, singing to Chris Ewen's backing tracks, which provides the opportunity to camp up some of the lyrics ('What if the show couldn't go on / ... What if all the stage hands were let go or fired' etc).
'No Seven, no 8½, no Nine, and no "10"'
Seven (a.k.a. Se7en) refers the David Fincher film [link]. 8½ is the Federico Fellini film. Nine is the Maury Yeston musical performed on Broadway in 1982 and 2003. And "10" is the Blake Edwards film.
In the 69 Love Songs booklet, Stephin Merritt says that the arrangement is meant as a Tom Jones tribute, while Daniel Handler suggests Fellini's "campy, sentimental, nostalgic, ridiculous, sublime vision seems to fit right in with the vision of this album". "
Disco 1:
1 Absolutely Cuckoo
3 All My Little Words
6 I Don't Want to Get Over You
7 Come Back From San Francisco
8 The Luckiest Guy on the Lower East Side
11 I Think I Need A New Heart
12 The Book of Love
15 The One You Really Love
21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
Disco 2
7 No One Will Ever Love You
10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
15 Long-Forgotten Fairytale
16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
17 Papa Was a Rodeo
Disco 3
12 Meaningless
Eliminamos otras 5 hasta mañana a las 14:00h.
2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
1 7 Come Back From San Francisco
2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
1 11 I Think I Need A New Heart
1.8 The Luckiest Guy on the Lower East Side
* 2.15 Long-Forgotten Fairytale
2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
2.17 Papa Was a Rodeo
* Me ha dolido.
1.15 The One You Really Love
2.07 No One Will Ever Love You
2.10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
¿nadie vota The Book of Love? Esto va a resultar como el survivor de The Smiths?
1 12 THE BOOK OF LOVE
2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2.07 No One Will Ever Love You
2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
1 11 I Think I Need A New Heart
1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
1 7 Come Back From San Francisco
2. 12 Promises of Eternity
2.15 long forgotten..
2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
dejar en paz I think I need a new heart copón!
1 15 The One You Really Love
1 21 Nothing Matters When We're Dancing
2 10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2 16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
3 12 Meaningless
Va a ser que le tengo manía a Meaningless y además soy el único
Disco 1:
1 Absolutely Cuckoo
15 The One You Really Love
Disco 2
10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
Disco 3
12 Meaningless
2.7 No One Will Ever Love You
2.10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2.15 Long-Forgotten Fairytale
2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
el sino de los survivor es siempre sembrar el caos y la destrucción?
2.07 No One Will Ever Love You
2.10 (Crazy for You But) Not That Crazy
2.16 Kiss Me Like You Mean It
3.12 Meaningless
y aunque ya se han quedado en la cuneta alguna de mis favoritas, que conste que me lo estoy pasando genial, he redescubierto como tres o cuatro canciones... así que para mi ya ha valido la pena... por no hablar de toda la info que esta colgando @elek en cada ronda...